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Korean management of vietnamese groups=Not a good idea.  


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I used to think having korean management of vietnamese groups was a good idea. But seeing how they kind of downgrading, and do not utilize the best of vietnamese talent and skills, I'm now against the idea, unless they showing they are willing to help developing Vpop.

Another thing I wonder: Have they done research of the vietnamese music market? Vietnamese audience, both general and Kpop fans oppose groups that are Kpop inspired. If they liked that type of style, then Uni5 and Monstar would have been A-List artists by now. But they're not so. 

We had LIME and last year, D1verse. D1verse is a special case. They were under Rbw, a mid-size korean company, and the expectations was very high. But their debut MV was so cheaply made, I would almost call it a insult against Vpop music standard. And they haven't been active since August 2020, meaning most likely disbanded quietly. 

I'm starting to think these korean companies that are debuting Vpop groups do not have their heart and motivation to make them successful. I think they do it because it's a part of the Korea's ODA assistent to Vietnam. ODA is a form of aid money, and we know many Kpop companies are sponsored by the korean govt. By saying they wanna create a vietnamese group, they may get subsidiary support aka money to do it. If that is the case which I believe it is, then it need to stop. It's a waste of time, money and vietnamese skills. 

 

This is NOT how I want Vpop groups to be shown to the world. Vietnamese should not rely on koreans UNLESS we have a say and control overall. 

 

Side note. There is a new girl group project by korean company SB Entertainment. This is a predebut trainee show. The views are super low and very few are aware of them. Illustrate the problem of my thread yet again. 

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I agree with you on this one. Because how are they going to take the rising new talent artists if they aren't going to do the marketing and promotion if they doing know anything about the market. 

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@hangmoon37 That's been a repetetive problem ever since LIME and TAS(another korean attempt before LIME). I welcome korean Kpop producers and trainers, if they are sincere in helping develope the non-existent Vpop idol culture. Because koreans do have the expertise Vietnam will need. SGO48 is probably the only real idol group Vietnam currently have at the moment. But they are not a model that should be followed, except for the fanservice. That is something future groups can learn from them. 

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Wait then why aren't they hiring vietnamese management that has a better perspective of the market and how to promote in vietnam atleast. 

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@naruto_sun Don't know, but I do smell superiority complex towards vietnamese. Koreans always looked down on Southeast Asia. They think they know everything since they made Kpop. 

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@uni5fan99 but that doesn't mean they can act like Mr. We know it all and destroy the potential of vpop. 

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@rem_subaru like why even take the job of promoting vpop if they don't want to introduce any innovation According to what the vietnam audience wants. 

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@sienna_davis true they should hire people that can do the job good. And make vpop a world sensation. 

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@rem_subaru You're right they can't. But it depend on us as well. We need to stop giving them too much respect. Vietnam is a independent country, not some walkover for richer ones. 

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I wouldn't really know much about this to be honest. But I am aware that changing management can be a burden for a band/group/artist. I'm under the impression, that artists should go to good management. I personally think they'd fair better in the hands of US management, as they could potentially be even bigger stars. Sadly, they won't be able to break out of Vietnam just like that, they need management that can bring them exactly that. Or so that's how I see it. 

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I agree with the OP. The Vietnamese audience is extra critical of songs that remind them of kpop. Probably why ballad pop songs are the way to go.

What's trending and working today are pop ballads, rap and lofi songs.

Even songs that aren't copycats somehow are accused of being copycats. It's hard to come out with a Vpop song and not have it compared to Kpop. But then there are Chinese inspired songs in Vpop that becomes really popular like Chi Pu's Anh Oi O Lai and no one compares it to other Chinese songs. Strange...

There are Vietnamese kpop fans who just look down on Vpop even if the product is solid. Maybe cause the international Kpop community also likes to talk about how this song is so similar to this kpop song. But maybe that's a good thing to not go the Kpop direction. Also if the Korean companies come in, the artists will get paid peanuts and songs will be much more manufactured. I like American/European companies signing Vpop artists more like what happened to Vu and Phung Khanh Linh.

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@thanggalang

 

The music video "Anh Ơi Ở Lại" of Chi Pu is based on a Vietnamese fairy tale called "The Story of Tấm and Cám" which is a fairy tale that every Vietnamese people know which is probably why no Vietnamese people compared it to Chinese music videos except foreigners who don't know Vietnam if you watch reaction videos of foreigners to that music video, they thought that it was in China.

 

When you say Vu, are you talking about Vũ Cát Tường ?

 

For which companies are Vu and Phùng Khánh Linh working ? What is the nationalities of those companies ?

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@rockman ah I see, I didn't know about this fairy tale. I meant Vũ who signed with Warner Music. But yes, Vũ Cát Tường also signed with a Western label right?

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Posted by: @thanggalang

I agree with the OP. The Vietnamese audience is extra critical of songs that remind them of kpop. Probably why ballad pop songs are the way to go.

What's trending and working today are pop ballads, rap and lofi songs.

Even songs that aren't copycats somehow are accused of being copycats. It's hard to come out with a Vpop song and not have it compared to Kpop. But then there are Chinese inspired songs in Vpop that becomes really popular like Chi Pu's Anh Oi O Lai and no one compares it to other Chinese songs. Strange...

There are Vietnamese kpop fans who just look down on Vpop even if the product is solid. Maybe cause the international Kpop community also likes to talk about how this song is so similar to this kpop song. But maybe that's a good thing to not go the Kpop direction. Also if the Korean companies come in, the artists will get paid peanuts and songs will be much more manufactured. I like American/European companies signing Vpop artists more like what happened to Vu and Phung Khanh Linh.

I agree with what you said and you made a lot of good points. Vpop clearly has found it's sound with ballad pop, rap/hip hop and lofi genres. They should continue with that and develope even more.

As for korean companies trying to debut their own Kpop version of Vpop, they need to stop. I hope the department of culture look into this issue, because I believe like I wrote these companies are using some form of aid money. Because, nobody in the right mind would debut a Kpop viet group in Vietnam, when they know vietnamese are not into album sales and the history of groups are not good. There is a reason why Kpop companies(big ones)only focus on China, Japan and the west, because they know people buy albums in millions there. If they want to debut vietnamese in Kpop, then debut them in Korea and let Vpop grow without the influence of their genre. 

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@uni5fan99 yeah it's possible they are using aid money to keep the Korean image in Vietnam in a good light. I don't mind having Korean artists in Vietnam but they can't just copy what worked in Korea and bring it to Vietnam. That won't work unless BTS or some other big group is doing a collab with them.

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Hi,

I don't know much about all this, but I think that V-Pop in it's unique way is a nice and valid addition to music. It should not try to copy or change itself to follow a role-model, neither American, Korean or Chinese. K-Pop can benefit from Vietnamese music and artists and vice versa. They could also coop, that would be nice. V-Pop doesn't have to stay romantic ballads only, but artists and labels should try to find their own style and idea of what V-Pop could be or do, influenced by music from other countries, but not becoming a weaker version of it. Music is too much planned these days "what would the fans want", heck, music should be the expression of the artists emotions and ideas and it will find it's audience automatically. Probably not how Pop music works these days...

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As long as they're breaking out and becoming famous, being with a Korean management should be fine. But, I understand where everyone is coming from. I think Vietnam artists need to be honest about their craft and what they want to do. 

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@jaime that's a valid point in my opinion but like vpop isn't popping out like it should be cuz like there's so much potential in all the artists yet still they aren't going up in charts that much. And it's kinda because of the Korean management they have to promote and manage their content. 

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What a strong support. We always Support high quality Vietnamese 

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